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Apr 282014

 Episode 90 Show Notes Timeline.


Earliest known image of Mickey 1928

Earliest known image of Mickey 1928

I've been doing a lot of thinking lately. Disney terrifies me. this podcast explains why.

I’ve been doing a lot of thinking lately. Disney terrifies me. this podcast explains why.

  • 0:00 -3:18 Intro

  • 3:19- Ambassador Hotel Bloody Mary.

 Classic Bloody Mary

Ambassador  Hotel  Los Angeles

The Best I've ever had.

The Best I’ve ever had.



  • 2 oz Vodka
  • 4 oz Tomato juice
  • Fresh key lime juice (about 1/2 a small lime)
  • Worcestershire sauce (3 dashes)
  • Tabasco Sauce (2 dashes)
  • 1 oz Clam Juice
  • Bitters (2 dashes)
  • Salt and pepper
  • Garnish: Lemon wedge, celery rib and Olive or as desired
  • Glass: Tall


Chilled.  Shaken not Stirred.

  • Fill a  shaker with crushed ice.
  • pour 1 1/2 ounces of vodka,
  • 3 dashes of Tabasco sauce,
  • 4 oz. can of tomato juice ,
  • 1 oz. of clam juice,
  • 3 dashes  of Worcestershire sauce
  • 2 Dashes of Bitters
  • Chill and then pour into tall glass.
  • Add some salt & pepper to taste.
  • Garnish with a celery stick, and or olives.

This is the classic Bloody Mary served at the Legendary Los Angeles Ambassador Hotel from the 40’s to the early 90’s.

The same recipe that people like Frank Sinatra, Sammy Davis Jr., Dean Martin, Joey Bishop, Peter Lawford, Steve McQueen, and Lee Marvin enjoyed when nursing hangovers.

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  • 13:00 Man Vs Art Thanks you for putting MVA on the 1st page of Itunes.

  • 14:01 The Corporate corruption of Copyright and rape of the Public Domain. Disney I’m looking at you.

  • 18:56 – The inherent weakness of Mickey Mouse as a cartoon character yet as a  Corporate symbol he RULES! It seems like Disney’s mission is  to suck all of the money from the parents’ wallets while rendering children compliant, subservient consumers.

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  • 23:00 The princessization of little girls. Thanks to Disney Princesses all little girls will grow up thinking they are princesses. No skills, ambition or anything.

  • 31:55 Disney doesn’t care about anything but profit. In 1981 Michael Eisner sent out an office memo that said “1981 staff memo “We have no obligation to make art. We have no obligation to make a statement. To make money is our only objective.”  Frozen became the highest grossing animated film of all time with earnings totaling almost a billion dollars. So what did Disney do to reward the awesome crew of talented artists and technicians who made this possible? They laid off more than half of them and gave bonuses only to the few they kept on. The rest were out the door. You would think the laid off people would probably need that bonus money more right? Tough shit says Disney.

  • 34:30 It’s not a good idea for such a hypocritical  company with such questionable business practices and sneaky maneuvering, who clearly doesn’t give a shit to own our most cherished stories and characters and refuse to share them. If they didn’t tout themselves as the wholesome , kind,  family values company it wouldn’t be so bad.
  • 37:15 Disney has  24 access to kids today. Thanks to technology they can exploit their content to create tomorrow’s blind idiot consumers. Disney exploits their IP’s, artists, audiences,

  • 43:45 If you want to play with Star Wars, Marvel , Muppets, you have to play by their rules. The Agenda of the corporation is first. In 10 or 15 years it will be insane. Disney takes from the public Domain and then extend the copyright indefinitely. In a nutshell they are stealing from culture. Our culture.

  • 45:39 Mickey mouse is technically public domain. In 1928 Walt did not label Steamboat Willy properly and the statute of limitations had passed. This is why Disney is so adamant about extending the Copyright of Mickey.

  • 51:30 Mickey mouse has 7000 consumer products as opposed to Bugs bunny who has like 600.

  • 54:05 Disneyland Death trap

  • 56:00 Mickey has evolved over the last 9 decades. Is Mickey relevant? Mickey Mouse is actually a “Fuck You” to Universal for taking Oswald The Lucky Rabbit.

  • article-0-0C30D6F0000005DC-18_634x6921:04:30 In the 30’s Within just a few years of his creation, Mickey became  a corporate symbol and therefore can’t bee too subversive or wacky. Last Short in 1953. Through the 60’s to now Mickey has popped up in a few things.

  • 1:11:10 Get a Horse! totally disses the tradition it supposedly it’s trying to homage. It tells the audience ( not just the kids) , but anyone who’s never seen a black-and-white Mickey short — that the B/W old school part is something to be painfully endured until Poochie the Rockin’ Dog shows up.

  • 1:14:10 The Joker Song by Miracle of sound Miracle Of Sound brings you 100% original movie & videogame songs All songs are written, performed and produced by Irish musician/producer Gavin Dunne http://miracleofsound.bandcamp.com/

  • 1:19:15 Disney in the early 90’s wanted to dig up civil war battlefields and build souvenir shops and tram rides and charge admission. WTF?

  • 1:24:20 The Happy Birthday song which Time Warner Claims to own, even though there has never been a court ruling that settles ownership.  That’s $2 million a year for Time Warner for NOTHING!

  • 1:27:35 Mickey Mouse is supposed to be public domain. It’s time was up and it was never registered properly. Disney greased the palms of congressman and bought an extension. But it’s for nothing. because, Mickey was never registered properly and the statute of limitations has run out.  check out the 1999 paper then Law Student Lauren Van Pelt wrote. She proves Mickey Mouse is PD. Obviously Disney was none to happy.

  Mickey Mouse — A Truly Public Character Student Paper in Advanced Copyright, Spring 1999

by Lauren Vanpelt
Arizona State University College of Law

  • 1:33:55 Disney has always had tons of artists and writers suing them for stealing their ideas. Are all of them B.S.?

Look at how Frozen was marketed. Goober Snowman! Right? Wrong. The Goober Snowman in the trailer is what got us into the theater.  “I thought HEY! Something different HOORAY!” But MUCH TO MY BITTER DISAPPOINTMENT it turned put to be a yearning “there must be more to life, look how quirky I am!” bucket of vomit  princess story. AGAIN. It’s been done. I don’t care how much money it made. Let’s move on.

Animator Kelly Wilson  is suing Disney for ripping off her 2010 short “The Snowman” for the Frozen teaser they made. She submitted in her portfolio  4 times at Disney in search of a job. In her portfolio was her short film.  Gee! She was not good enough to be hired, but she was good enough to have her idea stolen.


The  IP’s that Disney took from the Public Domain and profited from greatly!

  1. Aladdin from a folk tale in One Thousand and One Nights (1706) Revenue = $504 million (1992)

  2. Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll (1865) Revenue = $1.02 billion (2010 version) + $?? original revenue unknown (1951)

  3. Atlantis from the legend of Atlantis (originated as the Socratic Dialogues “Timaeus” & “Critias” by Plato ~360 BC.) Revenue = $?? million (2001 film)

  4. Beauty and the Beast by G-S Barbot de Villeneuve (1755) Revenue = $425 million (1991)

  5. Bug’s Life from Aesop’s Fables Revenue = $363.4 million (1998)

  6. Cinderella from the Charles Perrault folk tale (Grimm’s Fairy Tails) (1697) Revenue = $85 million (1950)

  7. Chicken Little from the folk tale Revenue = $314.4 million (2005)

  8. Christmas Carol from Charles Dickens (1843) Revenue = $325.3 million (just 2009 film)

  9. Fantasia (1940) scored and based upon Bach, Tchaikovsky, Beethoven & other classical compositions (however, “ The Rite Of Spring” was licensed in original film) Revenue = $83.3 million (1940) (22nd highest-grossing film of all time as adjusted for inflation) + $90.9 million (1999?—?Fantasia 2000)

  10. Frozen from Hans Christian Anderson’s Ice Queen (1845) Revenue = $810.3 million (2013)

  11. Hercules from the Greek myth Revenue = $252.7 million (1997 film only)

  12. The Jungle Book by Rudyard Kipling (1894 copyright, movie released just one year after copyright expired) Revenue = $205.8 million (1967?—?30th highest grossing film with inflation) + $43 million (1994 live action version)

  13. Little Mermaid by Hans Christian Anderson (1837) Revenue = $211.3 million (1989)

  14. Mulan (1998) from the Chinese Legend of Hua Mulan Revenue = $304.3 million

  15. Oliver & Company based on Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens (1839) Revenue = $74 million (1988)

  16. Peter Pan by J.M. Barrie (1904) Revenue = $109.9 million (2002 sequel Return to Neverland) [When original 1953 film was made it seems like the book was still under copyright.]

  17. Pinocchio by Carlo Collodi (1883) Revenue = $84.3 million (1940?—?39th highest grossing box office gross as adjusted for inflation)

  18. Pocahontas from the life and legend of Pocahontas Revenue = $346 million (1995)

  19. Princess and the Frog from the Brothers Grimm folk tale The Frog Prince Revenue = $267 million (2009)

  20. Robin Hood from the English folk tales Revenue = $87 million (1973 film)

  21. Snow White from the Brothers Grimm folk tale (1857) Revenue = $416 million (10th highest grossing film as adjusted for inflation)

  22. Sleeping Beauty from the Charles Perrault folk tale (1697) (also with music/characters from Tchaikovsky’s 1890 ballet) Revenue = $51.6 million (1959) (31st highest grossing film as adjusted for inflation)

  23. Tangled from the Brothers’ Grimm fairy tale Rapunzel (1812) Revenue = $591.8 million

  24. Tarzan from Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs (1914) Revenue = $448.2 million (1999)

  25. The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad based on the Legend of Sleepy Hollow by Washington Irving (1820) and Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame (1908) Revenue = $?? (1949)

  26. The Hunchback of Notre Dame from Victor Hugo’s Book (1831) Revenue = $325.4 million (1996)

  27. The Lion King from Hamlet (1603) and a 1960s Japanese animated series called “Kimba the White Lion” Revenue = $987.5 million (1994)

  28. Three Musketeers by Alexandre Dumas (1844)Revenue = $53.9 million (just 1993 film)

  29. The Reluctant Dragon based on the story by Kenneth Grahame (1898). Revenue = $?? (1941 )

  30. The Sword in the Stone from the Arthurian Legend revenue = $22.2 million (just 1963 film)

  31. Treasure Island and Treasure Planet based upon by Robert Louis Stevenson (1883) Revenue = $109.6 million (Treasure Planet) + $34.4 million (1996 Muppet Treasure Island) + $?? (1950 Treasure Island)

Disney teaches us that it’s OK to steal from the public domain while working hard to ensure that none of your own works enter it.

One of  Disney's Legendary Nine Old Men, Animator Ward Kimball's wacky Mickey Model Sheet.Ward Kimball

One of Disney’s Legendary Nine Old Men, Animator Ward Kimball’s wacky Mickey Model Sheet.

“The Disneyland Memorial Orgy” by Wally Wood for The Realist (1967)

“The Disneyland Memorial Orgy” by Wally Wood for The Realist (1967)

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